Families of those who perished in California fires ought to sue Gov Moonbeam Brown, and the State of California for negligent homicide

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Jerry Brown quietly admits Trump was right. California guv eases state's logging rules in wake of wildfires

Jerry Brown quietly admits Trump was right. California guv eases state's logging rules in wake of wildfires (wnd.com)

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Families of those who perished in California fires ought to sue Gov Moonbeam Brown, and the State of California for negligent homicide. (politics)

 

 

by LuvOurPotusDJT

It was a deliberate decision by Jerry Brown to create hazardous conditions by not properly maintaining forests, and letting slide negligent local electric companies by not enforcing the practice that they had to take proper steps to prevent their equipment from sparking fires. Now that Brown has retroactively decided to agree with a bill he once vetoed which would have prevented the many horrible deaths. Brown needs to pay the price. He should not have a nickel to his name after families of the dead are done with him. He should also spend the rest of his life in jail.

 
 
 

 

[–] EnterTheUnKnown 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Agenda 21,,,AKA agenda 2030. All part of (((they))) plan.

[–] AEndtoThemForever 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Nah, they file a suit, they'll 'change their minds' or 'disappear' or have a 'skiing accident' like the vast majority of american Biochemists have in the last twenty years.

[–] LuvOurPotusDJT [S] 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Too many deaths for that, the count is over 80 dead right now and over 1,000 missing. Did you see the picks were people fleeing were burnt to death in their vehicles? The Evidence is right there. He was warned. Trump warned him publicly, and even the State of CA tried to get him to do something about it.

The fact that Kanye West's house survived due to private firemen hired for them and their community also shows that these deaths and losses were easily preventable. He's in trouble.

[–] krusty 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have not heard of anything out of Concow. I am expecting that to up the death toll.

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No I did not see those pics....

[–] Hand_of_Node 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

these deaths and losses were easily preventable.

Yes, we've known for years how to live in high risk fire zones. Fuck the morons.

[–] AEndtoThemForever 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Curious how the Kagans and Co got him to ok that. He had to have been aware of the monorail project, did he just imagine they would somehow not throw him under the bus? Holy shit, these people really really are stupid.

[–] Maroonsaint 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Have you ever been skiing? It’s fun as fuck. Then you fall really hard and realize how fast your reality is slipping away from you. Tommorow 40 next day your funeral

[–] Aksarben1 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Liberalism kills. Everything the touch turns to shit.

[–] Titaniumman 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Obama proved that in SPADES !!!!

[–] LuvOurPotusDJT [S] 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Frankly, I don't really care where you live. The rest of this country is utterly fed up with California liberals and communist with their sanctuary cities and flaky ideas and policies fucking up the rest of this country. Its not where you live, its who you are.

[–] jodieann 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Having spent 35 years in California until recently, I can guarantee there are many more conservatives than you'd believe. It's just the loud ones that make all the noise. But it's going to get worse with this next generation. When I went back to visit after the election I was shocked to see children on the playgrounds marching with anti-Trump signs and shouting "Not my president"! Some looked to be in kindergarten. It's difficult to speak up for fear of retribution.

[–] Hand_of_Node 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

A flaky idea is choosing to live in an extreme fire risk area without taking the recommended precautions.

[–] Drendoid 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Burn his fucking mansion down

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

One of the worst ways to die imo

[–] drhitler 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

hahahah... no

maybe some vigilant citizen will do the job, but seriously, nothing will happen, nothing ever happens to anyone for anything

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unless you start back burns on you're own property to prevent bigger fires. Then the government fines you 1000s with jail time.

[–] Titaniumman 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

An anon pointed out that the path of the fires coincidently follow the path of the 77 trillion dollar train that Moonbeam wants to have built even though his state is running a multi trillion dollar deficit. If built i wonder how much money in kickbacks is going to fill Democrat coffers

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh really?

[–] Titaniumman 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Since he has declared California a ssnctuary state he sholdl be sued by family members of anyone whose family members have been raped killed or injured by criminal illegals that have been released back into the population because of his refusal to abide by our federal immigration laws.

[–] jamesed 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not maintaining the forests has nothing to do with Ecology or wild life or any other such rot. The People don't want no stranger finding their illegal POT growing operation....

[–] MyNameIsMud 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Alot of our forests in California are Federal. It's not all his fault, just alot of it.

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

He could petition the federal government to take care of their forest.

[–] MyNameIsMud 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's all the tree hugging faggots in the cities who want to prioritize saving endangered species of animals and protecting trees from the logging industry and responsible forest management practices like brush clearing. Maybe now they'll see how fucking stupid they are and that every single one of them is equally responsible in my opinion.

[–] Hand_of_Node -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Anyone who lives in a California forest, which is an extreme fire risk zone, is a moron who deserves to die if they haven't followed the recommended fire risk mitigation recommendations. While morons can be sympathetic figures among the "less savvy", they have no practical value and deserve the consequences they create.

[–] MyNameIsMud 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Clearing 100 feet around the perimeter of your home by June 1 can only help with so much.

[–] RedditSureDoesSuck 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You should shitpost more.

[–] bredlo 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It'd be nice if politicians were held accountable but they seem 4 steps of legal privilege above a cop

[–] MartinTimothy 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Jerry Brown r'soles .. the California fires no less than disastrous fires in Tennessee, GreeceYouTube, PortugalYouTube, China and CanadaYouTube were caused by Directed Energy Weapons DEW for short, thus Jews infiltrated the US political, defense and news dissemination infrastructure and got away - not yet tho - with 911, now this.

Someone launched a cruise missileGIF that slammed into into the Pentagon September 11, 2001 and it was not Osama bin Laden .. only those at the very highest level can deploy that sort of ordinance as well they are the only ones can burn America with super lasers.

We say the same Zionist Jews who have usurped the political process and installed bad actors like DT, who deliver encomiums on his behalf that are designed to fool the American ppl into believing he is some kinda good guy, who run the information medium are the ones behind the burnings.

[–] theoldones 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

cite DEW, sue for arson and murder.

[–] Hand_of_Node -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Why should the supposed "victims" not be charged for failing to mitigate their risk?

[–] noworldorder -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not sure you can sue a chief executive of a state for decisions made while governing. Otherwise there would always be lawsuits pending against said chief executives, and the whole system of governance would collapse.

No, the best thing Californians can likely do is recall Governor Moonbeam. They did that as recently as 2003: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_recall_election

[–] Divine_Intervention 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

They are exceptions to the rule and this is definitely meets the exception rules. POTUS publicly warned Brown, as did other politicians. He was put on notice of the danger. He certainly cannot claim he was acting in the best interest of Californians because he was given every opportunity to review his decision and correct. He was definitely put on notice. People sue Trump and his administration all the time. BTW, why bother with recalling him, he's leaving come January 1, anyway and the damage has already been done.

[–] slwsnowman40 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Moonbeam is termed out and being replaced by Newsom (he's connected to the Gettys), to see that empty suits exploits, simple look at San Franshitco.

[–] Cat-hax 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Shouldn't matter when 80 people die on you're watch

[–] FuckYesJefferson -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Decent idea, except state forests didn't burn down...

[–] LuvOurPotusDJT [S] 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Both State and Federal lands burned. But we are talking about homes, lives and entire families that were roasted to death by the fires, and the causes of them burning.

 

A Huge Problem--And People Don't Want to Talk About It

Marriage between cousins remains rampant in much of the Muslim world. And the results are truly tragic.
 
 
 
Muslim Inbreeding is a Huge Problem--And People Don't Want to Talk About It

Recently I was discussing culture with an educated person whom I respect. Over bourbon, we talked about various matters, including religion. The conversation was interesting but uneventful until he dropped this line.

“You do know half of the Arab world is inbred, right?”

It was a jarring line. It sounded both coarse and false. I politely answered that, no, I was not aware of this particular fact. I must have been smirking, because he persisted. “It’s true. Look it up.”

It was at this point I expressed skepticism. Perhaps he meant some villages in the Arab or Muslim world? Nope, he said.

I said I’d look into the matter, something I did several weeks later. To my surprise, I found an abundance of information on the subject. To my embarrassment, I found that my friend was pretty much right. Reliable research suggests consanguineous marriage rates in many Arab nations are as high as 50 percent.

How did I not know this? I decided to keep investigating.

A Google search of “Islam Inbreeding” will lead one to the case of Salha al-Hefthi, a 17-year-old Saudi girl who was profiled by the New York Times in 2003. Ms. Hefthi’s parents told her how lucky she was to be marrying someone from her own tribe, her paternal uncle’s son—her first cousin. The couple had two healthy boys but their third child, a girl, was diagnosed with spinal muscular atrophy, a genetic disorder that usually is fatal. The couple would have three more children born with the disease.

Ms. Hefthi told the Times she had no idea inbreeding often leads to genetic defects. This is not uncommon in Saudi Arabia, which is why genetic disorders are so rampant.

“Saudi Arabia is a living genetics laboratory,” Dr. Stephen R. Schroeder, executive director of the Prince Salman Center for Disability Research, told the Times. “Here you can study 10 families to study genetic disorders, where you would need 10,000 families to study genetic disorders in the United States.”

But it’s not just Saudi Arabia, or the Middle East for that matter. Inbreeding is surprisingly common in many Muslim nations and communities, evidence shows.

About 40 percent of the population marries a cousin in Egypt, according to a 2016 report in The Economist, while the percentage in Jordan is 32 percent.

“Rates are thought to be even higher in tribal countries such as Iraq and the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait,” says the Economist.

A 2005 BBC survey found that 55 percent of Britain’s huge Pakistani population was married to a first cousin.

There are at least two reasons inbreeding is so common in parts of the Muslim world (in addition to ignorance of its link to genetic defects): tradition and religion.

In many parts of the Islamic world, it’s considered unusual if not offensive to marry someone outside of one’s family or tribe. The pressure to marry a family member can be intense.

A 38-year-old Egyptian woman with two sons suffering from micro-syndrome, for example, explained to the Economist how she was criticized by relatives for allowing her teenage daughter to marry “a stranger” instead of a family member.

But the pressure can go beyond mere criticism. In recent years, European nations have seen young Muslim women killed for refusing to marry a family member. Honor killings, such as this 21-year-old Kurdish woman in Germany who was gunned down at a wedding after declining an arranged marriage with her cousin, are rare. But they demonstrate the emphasis Islamic culture places on “keeping it in the family.”

The precedent for consanguineous marriage comes from the Qur'an itself. Following his military conquests, the prophet Muhammad famously married his cherished daughter Fatimah to his cousin Ali, an act that was shown to be a great honor.

“I have married you to the dearest of my family to me,” Muhammed told Ali.

In fact, cousins are not even considered blood relatives in the Islamic tradition because the Qur'an does not forbid or condemn marriage between cousins. Here is what is said in chapter 4, verse 23 of the religious text:

“Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”

 

As a result of this long religious tradition, convincing Muslims to stop the practice of inbreeding has proven difficult.  

“My dad would not accept that being married to his cousin could have affected his children,” said Aisha Khan, a 36-year-old Pakistani woman who lives in the UK and lost two siblings to genetic diseases. “He’d say, ‘The doctors are wrong. It’s in the hands of God.’”

But inbreeding is an issue that needs to be addressed, some European leaders say. The problem is that genetic deficiencies from consanguineous marriages is taxing European healthcare systems.

The BBC’s research, for example, found that that while British Pakistanis accounted for roughly 3.4% of all births, “they had 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.”

One study found that each year 700 babies in the UK are born with genetic disabilities as a result of consanguineous marriage. Despite this epidemic of genetic defects in babies born from consanguineous marriages, there remains a reluctance in many Islamic leaders to acknowledge the full ramifications of marriage between cousins (see below).

 

 

However, it should be noted that one of the impediments to addressing the issue of consanguineous marriage and its side-effects has nothing to do with Muslims. A serious problem, some critics say, is the inability of Western thought leaders to give the issue sufficient attention. Many, it seems, are hesitant to broach the subject, perhaps out of fear they’ll be mocked as xenophobic or portrayed as an Islamophobe. That won’t do, critics say.

“It's a public health issue and we deal with public health issues by raising awareness, by talking about subjects such as obesity, such as drug addiction, such as alcohol,” Ann Cryer, a former British Labour Party politician, told The Telegraph. “But for some reason we're told that we mustn't talk about cousin marriages because this is a sensitive issue.”

The dialogue raises an important question: If we can’t talk about sensitive cultural issues, how are people of diverse backgrounds, faiths, and ethnicities ever going to live together peacefully?

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